On Dec 7, 10:03 am, jtees4 wrote: >Sad. I've owned and loved a few. >************* >NEW SONG UP!!!: =================================== Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC in 1988. The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only.

Chinese quality is not equal to Korean quality overall yet; Korean quality is approaching Japanese quality but is not there yet. The opening of the GQ factory has moved Chinese quality control forward quite a bit in a relatively short time period. Not all MIC brands are catching up to MIK quality as quickly. In '95, Hamer brought back a number of variations on the venerable CruiseBass, the original of which had run from '82 to '90. In '95/'96 Hamer produced a limited number of Korina Standards, versions of the original Gibson Explorer of '58. Beginning in late 1987 serial numbers were again stamped into the wood.

Still, sad to see a once proud 'Made In U.S.A.' Brand fall by the wayside. Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a solid player. Lulu: ( =================================== TheChris 12:55. LULU wrote in news:aaac91be-cc95-4781-b7ad-: >On Dec 7, 10:03�am, jtees4 wrote: >>Sad.

I've owned and loved a few. >57503-well-it-was-fun-but-it.

>>************* >>NEW SONG UP!!!: >0 >>================================== >Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC >in 1988. The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only. >Still, sad to see a once proud 'Made In U.S.A.' Brand fall by the >wayside.

Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL >factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a >solid player. >>Lulu: ( >>================================== Yeah, Slammers were really a bad move.

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 11:29:22 -0800 (PST), LULU wrote: >Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC >in 1988. The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only. >Still, sad to see a once proud 'Made In U.S.A.' Brand fall by the >wayside. Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL >factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a >solid player.

I own one of the 1st 100 tiger top 'explorer' guitars the Hamer USA people ever made, and I tell ya, it is one flocking kool instrument, a work of art, back then I paid $1500 w/case for it used, mint. When KMC bought the name, they 'tried' to make it work, but like Ovation (whom they also ruined), all that mattered was $, and overseas it went.and it turned to crap. VERY sad news. FMIC (whom I believe own the brand) will bury it like they did Sunn, and if time get tough, will pimp it off for quick $. I remember showing it to a guy who had a real Gibson 1st series explorer, and the Hamer played MUCH better..yet not worth anywhere near as much. JJTj *>SENT FROM CELL MACNABB DOCK3# AJNITTUGHVBVGGRTM DATE REPLY MODEFINE GIGANEWS 7495228RTYYS--THBVLI54G. On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 11:29:22 -0800 (PST), LULU wrote: I owned three early to mid 90's hamer USA guitars, and while they were not the same as the earlier ones, they were very very good top quality guitars with top notch woods, hardware, pickups etc.

Yes, the Slammer series was garbage (except for the original Slammer MIK, but that's a long story), some of their other imports were OK.but they killed their own brand IMHO by making the imports look almost exactly like the USA models. I still think Gibson did it right by just having a completely different name on their imports, at least a Gibson still means only one thing, a USA Gibson.

You should never have to ask where a guitar is made.do you hear me Fender? Squier 05:35. >jtees4 wrote: >Sad.

I've owned and loved a few. >>************* ah this is bad news! Hamer USA were some great guitars. Yeah - the new owners diluted the brand with the Hamer imports. They over-milked the cow and now sent it off to the slaughterhouse. Typical bean counters and spreadsheet MBA's running a company.

Probably never even picked up a guitar. Anyways - that's a real shame. Another one bites the dust.

Looks like the old guard at FMIC from the early post CBS Fender days are all going. The bean counters and spreadsheet jockey MBA's are fully entrenched there now. FMIC is turning into what CBS was. Notbob 06:36. On Friday, December 7, 2012 4:44:24 PM UTC-5, JJTj wrote: >I remember showing it to a guy who had a real Gibson 1st >>series explorer, and the Hamer played MUCH better. >>.yet not worth anywhere near as much.

>>JJTj I just picked up a second hand MIK Hamer Std (Explorer). Set neck, cherry burst flame top. Mint condition, flawless construction, fit, finish, playability. I tried contacting them to place the date of production based on the SN#, but.it makes sense why I never heard back:-( -d LULU 13:45. On Dec 12, 2:03 pm, dvaoa wrote: >I tried contacting them to place the date of production based on the SN#, but.it makes sense why I never heard back:-( >>-d ======================================== Here's some old Hamer serial number info that I found in my files. There used to be a Hamer data base on the web, but I don't know if it's still up. Good Luck (hey...

Tell us what you find out about your instrument) Lulu: ) ======================================== Hamer USA Guitars: Serial Numbering System From 1974 through 1981 Hamer USA employed two separate serial numbering systems, one for custom instruments and one for production models: Custom Instruments: These instruments are easily recognized by the use of a four digit number stamped into the wood on the back of the peghead. The numbers ran from #0000 through #0680. Anolis Arc Power 36 Manual Muscle. All of the early Hamer USA Standards and 12-String basses as well as a number of prototype instruments were included in this serial numbering system. Production Models: Production models are stamped (initially with ink, later into the wood, on the back of the peghead) with either a five or six digit serial number. The first digit indicates the year that the instrument was built. The next four or five digits are sequentially stamped in order of production. For example, serial number 7 0001 was built in 1977 and was the first production model guitar built.

Similarly, 0 1964 was built in 1980 and was the 1,964th production guitar built. The serial numbering sequence by decade is indicated below: 1970s: 7 0001 - 9 1450 1980s: 0 1451 - 9 s: 0 24193 - 9 s: 0 50156 - present ======================================= dvaoa 14:27. LULU wrote in news:aaac91be-cc95-4781-b7ad-: >Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC >in 1988. The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only. >Still, sad to see a once proud 'Made In U.S.A.' Brand fall by the >wayside.

Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL >factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a >solid player. >>Lulu: ( >Saw a little piece on Jol Dantzig on the local PBS the other night. Wasn't aware he was a founding partner in Hamer. Still making guitars. -- Pat email: valid would be net Tim 21:11. On Dec 12, 9:55 pm, Phantom Post wrote: >LULU wrote in news:aaac91be-cc95-4781-b7ad- >: >>>Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC >>in 1988. The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only.

>>Still, sad to see a once proud 'Made In U.S.A.' Brand fall by the >>wayside. Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL >>factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a >>solid player. >>>Lulu: ( >>Saw a little piece on Jol Dantzig on the local PBS the other night. Wasn't >aware he was a founding partner in Hamer. Still making guitars.

>>>>-- >>Pat >>email: valid would be net =================================== Dantzig probably makes some very nice guitars, but the price is a bit more than excessive, I couldn't imagine that anyone would ever take such a high-priced piece of lumber to a gig. I wonder how many guitars are 'commissioned' each year? Thanks for the link, Lulu: ) ===================================.

Hamer Guitars was an American manufacturer of electric guitars founded in 1973, in Arlington Heights Illinois by vintage guitar shop owners Paul Hamer, Jol Dantzig and John Montgomery. The company's early instruments featured guitar designs based on the Gibson Explorer (The Standard) and Gibson Flying V (Vector), before adding more traditional Gibson-inspired designs such as the Sunburst. Electromagnetic Waves Staelin Pdf Printer.

Hamer Guitars is generally considered the first 'boutique' electric guitar brand that specifically catered to professional musicians, and was one of the first guitar maufacturers to produce a 12 string bass guitar. The company was incorporated in Illinois in 1976 by Montgomery, Dantzig, James Walker and Hamer. It was acquired by Kaman Music Corporation in 1988, which was purchased in turn by Fender Musical Instruments Corporation in 2008. Hamer offered a wide array of electric guitars and electric basses, and, since its foundation placed an emphasis on producing high-quality instruments with vintage aesthetics as well as creative innovations.

Kaman marketed a lower-priced line of Asian-built instruments called the Hamer XT Series and Slammer by Hamer, which was discontinued in 2009. In February 2013 Fender announced that the Hamer brand was being discontinued after 40 years of production (Source: Wikipedia).